{"id":37596,"date":"2025-06-17T11:31:09","date_gmt":"2025-06-17T03:31:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.1ai.net\/?p=37596"},"modified":"2025-06-17T11:31:09","modified_gmt":"2025-06-17T03:31:09","slug":"%e8%b0%b7%e6%ad%8c%e8%a2%ab%e6%9b%9d%e7%94%a8-chatgpt-%e8%ae%ad%e7%bb%83-gemini%ef%bc%8cscale-ai-%e5%90%a6%e8%ae%a4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.1ai.net\/en\/37596.html","title":{"rendered":"Google exposed for training Gemini with ChatGPT, Scale AI denies it"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>June 17, 2011 - Despite<a href=\"https:\/\/www.1ai.net\/en\/tag\/%e8%b0%b7%e6%ad%8c\" title=\"[View articles tagged with [Google]]\" target=\"_blank\" >Google<\/a>has a huge cloud computing business and tons of talent, but is often seen as the underdog in the generative AI race. Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella has said that Google has missed the boat in AI. In response, Sundar Pichai, CEO of Google's parent company Alphabet, has hit back with a deadly rebuke, pointing the finger at Microsoft's increasingly strained partnership with OpenAI: \"I'd be happy to compare Microsoft's own models with ours any day, any time, and they use somebody else's models. .\"<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-37597\" title=\"8e43cf9aj00sxzdp6004gd000v900hkp\" src=\"https:\/\/www.1ai.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/8e43cf9aj00sxzdp6004gd000v900hkp.jpg\" alt=\"8e43cf9aj00sxzdp6004gd000v900hkp\" width=\"1125\" height=\"632\" \/><\/p>\n<p>However, according to documents obtained by Business Insider, Google is in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.1ai.net\/en\/tag\/scale-ai\" title=\"[View articles tagged with [Scale AI]]\" target=\"_blank\" >Scale AI<\/a> contractors who allegedly used <a href=\"https:\/\/www.1ai.net\/en\/tag\/chatgpt\" title=\"[View articles tagged with [ChatGPT]]\" target=\"_blank\" >ChatGPT<\/a> to train and improve Google's Bard (now renamed Google <a href=\"https:\/\/www.1ai.net\/en\/tag\/gemini\" title=\"[View articles tagged with [Gemini]]\" target=\"_blank\" >Gemini<\/a>) This means that Google may be utilizing competitors' technology to enhance its own products. The documents further reveal that the contractors took thousands of responses from ChatGPT and compared them to Bard's output. They used these responses to improve Bard's answers to at least the same level as ChatGPT.<\/p>\n<p>Previously, Nadella had claimed that OpenAI had a two-year lead in developing ChatGPT, which made it difficult for competitors such as Google's Gemini to catch up, and Scale AI's management admitted that OpenAI's chatbot was more engaging in terms of the format and content of its responses. Contractors were tasked with getting Bard to outperform the GPT-4, and if they gave responses that dwarfed ChatGPT, they were awarded 15%.<\/p>\n<p>It's worth noting that OpenAI's terms of service explicitly prohibit the use of its output to train competitors' models. However, Scale AI denies this.<strong>states that \"Scale did not, and does not, use ChatGPT responses to train Gemini or any model.\"<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Scale AI says that the documents obtained by Business Insider are only \"standard comparative evaluations\" that are often misinterpreted as actually being used for model training and development, and claims that such evaluations are routine in the industry.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, Google's partnership with Scale AI seems to be facing new challenges. Recently, it was announced that Meta plans to partially acquire Scale AI for $14.3 billion (note: the current exchange rate is approximately RMB 102,743 million) for a 49% stake in the company, a deal that would push Scale AI's market valuation to $29 billion. In addition, Meta has hired Scale AI founder Alexandr Wang to lead its new superintelligence division.<\/p>\n<p>However, the partnership seems to have caused Google's displeasure. According to Reuters, Google plans to end its partnership with Scale AI. Google is Scale AI's largest customer, and had planned to pay Scale AI up to $200 million in 2025 for access to its manually labeled training data, which is an essential element needed to develop Gemini.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On June 17, according to the news, despite Google ' s vast cloud computing operations and large numbers of talent, it is often seen as a disadvantaged party in the creative artificial intelligence competition. The CEO of Microsoft Satya Nadella has said that Google has missed opportunities in the AI field. In response, Sundar Pichai, chief executive officer of the Google parent company Alphabet, had fatally responded, pointing at Microsoft's increasingly tense relationship with OpenAI: \u201cI would be happy to compare Microsoft's own model with our model on any day and at any time, using someone else's model.\u201d However, according to Business Insider<\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[146],"tags":[177,436,6945,281],"collection":[],"class_list":["post-37596","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news","tag-chatgpt","tag-gemini","tag-scale-ai","tag-281"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.1ai.net\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37596","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.1ai.net\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.1ai.net\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.1ai.net\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.1ai.net\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=37596"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.1ai.net\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37596\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.1ai.net\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=37596"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.1ai.net\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=37596"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.1ai.net\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=37596"},{"taxonomy":"collection","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.1ai.net\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/collection?post=37596"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}